Shots Across The Bow

it's cute how you attribute the reactions of a few loudmouths to the entire "left".

Unless you consider the entire left to be comprised of "left wing loons" and "extreme lefties", I fail to see how you can consider the piece to be directed at the entire left. However, it is intriguing that while you criticize me for pointing out the extreme nastiness from these lefties, you failed to speak against the extremists themselves.

Extremists, hate, and ad hominem attacks, in general, blow.

Always beware commentary from someone who starts off an email with "Methinks"...

Libs howled over Limbaugh saying Chelsea was ugly, but feel perfectly comfortable calling Laura Bush a murderer for an accident which happened 40 years ago, and using that charge to smear the President, who wouldn't even meet her for 15 years.

whoops. looks like you left off an "extreme" or "loon" qualifier on that one. hurry, fix it quick, or someone will think you're talking about the entire "left". and you wouldn't want that, would you?

. However, it is intriguing that while you criticize me for pointing out the extreme nastiness from these lefties, you failed to speak against the extremists themselves.

why should i? it looks to me like you already handled them fairly well. but in addition to that, you made the mistake of attributing the words of a few to the entire "left".

When mainstream liberals disown the fringe left, then I'll agree. But as long as you allow the voices of the fringe to speak for all of you, you will be held as tacitly accepting their position.

As an example, a couple weeks back, bubba featured an e-mail which claimed that a favorite tactic of 'conservatives' (no limiting words like "some", or "extreme") is to promote racism (I believe the exact quote was "fear of the black man").

Not one liberal spoke out to disclaim such an obvious and odious generalization, and Bubba explicitly approved of it.

This is a pattern which is repeated time and again. Libs, in this case you in particular, jump on a conservative comment which you presume to be overly broad while ignoring much worse comments coming from your own side. As for the specific comment in question, I didn't say that all libs hold this opinion; what I said was they find it acceptible. I base that judgment on two factors. First, I've heard the story before in a variety of forums, indicating that it is part of the liberal canon, and second, I've yet to hear a mainstream liberal denounce either the story, or those advancing it.

But as long as you allow the voices of the fringe to speak for all of you, you will be held as tacitly accepting their position.

yawn.

i don't allow anyone to speak for me (except my wife of course).

and furthermore, i'm not at all responsible for monitoring and condeming what people on DU or any other board say. they don't speak for me; they don't speak for The Left; they don't speak for the Democratic Party, the companies they work for or the baseball teams they follow; they speak for themselves, and that's it.

the idea that we should all have to go around pooh-poohing everything every loudmouth on the web says just to demonstrate that we don't agree with them is idiotic. actually, worse than idiotic, it's a cheap trick used to try to score partisan points. let fools make fools of themselves. i haven't given them permission to represent me; and i presume, neither has anyone else.

and, why in the world do you make it sound like people on the left are the only people capable of giving tacit approval to the voices of crazies? surely you wouldn't accept it if i was to hold you responsible for everything that comes out of the mouth of people like Pat Robertson (praying for SCOTUS deaths?), David Duke (marching around like a Nazi promoting an attitude that far exceeds simple racism), Mike Savage (wishing AIDS on people and mocking the autstic) or any random unstable Freeper simply because you don't disclaim everything they say?

Libs, in this case you in particular, jump on a conservative comment which you presume to be overly broad while ignoring much worse comments coming from your own side.

me in particular?

please, go back and read what i wrote in my last post: i gave you credit for getting the criticism right. and read what i wrote in my first post: i called them "loudmouths", which, where i come from, is a subtle way of denouncing what they say.

i did exactly what you accuse me (and all Libs) of not doing.

was i too subtle? or are you simply intent on continuing your irrational partisan rant?

As for the specific comment in question, I didn't say that all libs hold this opinion; what I said was they find it acceptible.

quick. what do all Libs think about the Raiders chances this year?

If Laura Bush is a murderer because of an accident 40 years ago, what does that make Ted Kennedy? Have people forgotten how on July 20, 1968 Ted Kennedy let a woman drown to death after the car that he was driving went into water? The woman survived the wreck because the car had an air pocket, but Ted was too worried about his political career to call for help in time to save the woman.

To criticize Laura Bush and not Ted Kennedy is to use a double standard.

So when are mainstream conservatives going to disown the fringe right instead of giving speeches at colleges that promote their creed of hate?

And we can't let this go without mentioning the certain media frenzy
if this had been Hillary who killed her first fiance.

Barbara Olson would have a best seller on it.
Ann Coulter would have a best seller on it.
Peggy Noonan would have a best seller on it.
Laura Ingraham would have a best seller on it.
Laura Schlessinger would have a best seller on it.
David Limbaugh would have a best seller on it.
Christopher Hitchens would have a best seller on it.
Dick Morris would have a best seller on it.
Bob Woodward would have a best seller on it.
Christopher Ruddy would have a best seller on it.
Ben Stein would have a best seller on it.
Gail Sheehy would have a best seller on it
Neal Boortz would have a best seller on it.
David P. Schippers would have a best seller on it.
David Maraniss would have a best seller on it.
Mike Barnacle would claim he was in the car with Hillary.
Joe Klein would write a best seller on it, but swear he didn't
Judas Stephanopolous Maximus would have a best seller on it.
Joe Eszterhas would fabricate quotes from Hillary's vagina.
Michael Isikoff would swear the conversation was "off the record"
but then turn around and print every word (plus some he made up.)
Kenneth Starr would write an impeachment referral over it.
Susan McDougal would still have to do time in prison,
and Julie Hiatt Steele would still lose her house.

The vulgar Pigboy would pound on her 15 hours a week until 2009.
O'Reilly would pound on Hillary for months and years.
Hannity would pound on Hillary for months and years.
(and Colmes would remain silent while he did...)
Paula Zahn would pound on Hillary for months and years.
Brit Hume would have weekly "Special reports" called "Accident? You Decide!"
Juan Willaims and Mara Liason would agree Hillary belongs in prison.

CNN would create a spin off network to cover it 24/7.
Tim the Whore would mention it every Sunday until he died.
Chris the Screamer would pound on Hillary for months and years,
but no guest would ever get to answer any questions about it.
Cokie Roberts would mention it every week, then giggle.
Henry Hyde would scream, "The flag is falling."

Richard Mellon Scaife would pay David Brock $80,000 to talk to the cops who were
paid $80,000 to say "We thought we smelled liquor, but everyone in Arkansas
knows there'd be hell to pay if we wrote this up as a drunk driving accident."
The American Spectator would then run a front page story on it, and somehow Paula Jones
would run into the spotlight screaming, "Hillary was trying to kill me - and missed," then the
whore mainstream media would've made Paula a star on this story instead of the other one.
Then every night, Larry King and his "panel of experts" would search for the connection
between Hillary's accident and Clinton's cock - as he always does.

...but since it was Bush's wife, Karl Rove gave orders not to bring it up.

LOL if Hillary had accidently killed her boyfriend at 17 there would be six Republican best sellers devoted just to that topic.
Hypocrisy?
Look in the mirror you Republican wimps and stop whining so much when you get only a fraction of what you cowards dish out.

Need a tissue?

you fuckwit loons on the right love to make up shit about the left, and hide your own idocy. You douchbags.

nick, nice argument. very Rovish. Have nothing to say of substance, so begin to slander your opposition.

also, kiss your mother with that mouth as*hole?

You are a moron. Liberals and the so-called liberal media ignored this story. Can you imagine if Hillary killed someone in a car crash, and the victime turned out to be her boyfriend (or ex)? Can you imagine what the right wing would do with that?

Liberals were "all over" this story? I didn't even know about it until now. You are just trying to justify the right's own viscious behavior.

do you really want me to start going through the threads at free republic and attribute some of those statements to the entire republican party? you right wingers are the biggest bunch of god damn hypocrites and crybabies that have ever walked the earth.you are all delusional. and yes, i am making this as a blanket statement that applies to ALL of the right wing that still supports our idiot-boy president, because to still support him after all of the damage he has caused to our nation, you must be completely out of your fucking mind.

oh, and the fact that the victim of a completely random automobile accident just so HAPPENS to be her boyfriend is HIGHLY suspicious, and does warrant a full blown investigation based just on the odds of it randomly occuring. I am pretty sure that this was her only fatal accident ever, and there sure are alot of other people for her to hit (67,000 in midland texas in 1960 according to the census)
so.... there was a one in 67,000 chance of her one fatal accident (i hope!)in her life just HAPPENING to kill her boyfriend....... as posters above have said, if this were hillary we were talking about, she would already be facing trial, and every dittohead out there would have a book about it. the left has shown major restraint on this, because we are the side of intelligence and rational approaches to issues, and the right is the side of character assasination and mudslinging, who shuns logic and rationality in favor of blind faith in lord jee-bus and george w. bush.

What someone failed to mention about the best sellers is this.If Hillary had killed her boyfriend,she would have had a best seller on it.